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hey guys this is Ryan the original

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outlaw of the airwaves bringing you

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another episode of hero paranormal

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podcast and today it's hard to get

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through the day without mentioning we

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got a killer show coming up we have a

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super intelligent individual who is one

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of my favorite people on the planet to

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be honest with you and that's just

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because he's been in the game so long

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and has so much knowledge of so many

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places in Utah and others and he is so

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well known he is known as the Fox Mulder

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of the UFO phenomenon here in the state

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of Utah and this term was given to him

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quite a while ago also they know him as

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alien Dave he has a website alien Dave

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comm also runs the Utah UFO hunters and

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his website I don't think he's updated

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it for a while but it's pretty cool it's

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more of an archive it's pretty awesome

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and he is always on the cutting edge

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checking stuff out as far from armchair

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researcher as they get often out in the

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field doing some of his amazing

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photography too he's an award-winning

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photographer he's so many talents and

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everything he gets involved with he just

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nails it also designed the space wolf

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he is a exceptional researcher

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definitely knowledgeable in what we'll

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be discussing which is area 52 Dugway

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proving grounds in Utah and forgetting

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can't forget have to do my own selfless

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without further ado alien Dave welcome

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to the hero paranormal podcast or aka

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Dave Rosenfeld

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what do you been up to you man well you

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know life and and stuff having some deep

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problems right now but other gnats been

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been good you know it's funny you

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mentioned the Jeep I I don't know if I

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mentioned the Jeep in the intro and it

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seems like such a silly thing to mention

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you know just being able to have a

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vehicle that is beyond the capable means

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of the average vehicle doesn't sound

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like a big deal but when some of these

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areas are more difficult in nature to

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access that becomes a huge deal that's

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correct I mean you have to have a

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vehicle they can get you where you need

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to go I mean that was a problem with

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mine for a few years there was a vehicle

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it was people drive and I I really beat

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the crap out of that thing I mean

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getting it trying to get it

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in places I need to go but the Jeep now

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it's it I just point it where it wants

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and it takes me wherever I want to go

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actually you know that previous car you

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had kind of impressed me down I can't

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say where cuz it's an undisclosed

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location but remember when we went down

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I had just got I had just got that red

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truck my gosh this must have been like

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2012 and really cool location oh my gosh

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but that little Ranger was broken yeah

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that's it took me where I wanted to go

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for the most part but being without

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four-wheel driving that thing it has its

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limits but it was some places it for

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sure I mean I've put some major miles on

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that big yeah there before that you had

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that was it the ARV ARV the big blazer

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that thing was crazy crazy I love that

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thing I had it for 1314 years and it

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started to rest away on me but other

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than that I mean nothing I think rocked

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brutal the first time I saw that thing

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was at a conference you were out at the

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Peary hotel and you rolled in and I

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could tell like you can tell a mile away

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with some vehicle like this that it just

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doesn't really quite like fit in to the

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grid you know when they're that elevated

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and and it's just like oh yeah I saw you

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like a block away and I'm like oh sweet

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that's alien Dave and it was like yeah

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it's it's a vehicle that is more capable

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than you know in an Armageddon situated

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in Santilli been like in a very low

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sports car compared to an ATV and then

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you realize like wow some vehicles can

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actually get over stuff other vehicles

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couldn't even you know get close to and

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in areas like Dugway which I don't know

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anybody who has a more all-encompassing

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out

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look view research time put in and ways

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in to view Doug way than you well I'll

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tell you what the cheap it definitely

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takes me around ed way anywhere I want

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to go and and then since I've had the

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Jeep I've found some new bad news points

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because if the people still anywhere and

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these new that it's points I'm telling

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you they're awesome

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I'm rap that probably take you out there

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some other people out there and saves

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them at these spots because when see

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from these vantage point it's just

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unreal and you you're up there all night

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and I mean the view is is like no other

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man I know the last vantage point that I

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met you at and it's been quite a while I

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was blown away we were testing out our

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night vision we were next to like some

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huge satellite tower and it's like the

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highest point in the area looking right

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down over some gate and I was just like

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you got to be kidding me how'd you find

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this and you were like man like a lot of

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time spent you know making tracks and

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it's so cool that you have that

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territory just kind of I don't know

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anybody that I mean I would feel and

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have felt completely lost out there when

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I lose your taillights or anything along

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that nature you've got it down so patent

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it's a big area what are we talking

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about now it's over 800,000 acres isn't

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it or close to that it's 2,000 square

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that way I think it encompasses like

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almost 800,000 acres of land so but what

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we're talking about is about five times

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to put that into perspective that is

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800,000 acres 200,000 that we know of

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and well yeah that's that's their their

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lamb boundary that their airspace goes

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beyond that so we're talking about

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airspace that is kind of the crown jewel

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of military installations I mean and you

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have that kind of space in that kind of

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airspace I mean you've got you've got

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playing God territory and it kind of

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sounds like that's what they're dealing

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I mean they have michael army airfield

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if I'm not mistaken has a you would know

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better than me but at last I checked I

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believe one of if not the longest

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airstrip in the world like 12 miles per

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like am i exaggerating or just

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corrective um Michael army airfield I

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believe in the second longest runway in

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sorry you cut out you cut out for a

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second where was the largest the largest

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is area 51 hmm

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so so that kind of tells you something

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you know that the longest airstrip on

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the planet it air did do one and you

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have the second-longest did Michael our

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marital bed way it kind of tells you

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something I mean it's it's about three

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miles long and it was it was expanded

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back in 2004 something like that and the

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spokesperson for Dugway said the reason

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for the expansion was the cargo planes

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and so I mean really do you need that

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kind of runway for cargo planes with

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cargo planes land you know everyday

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airports that are normal sized and in

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stuff but you know you think about it

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you look at it and he researched that

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this runway and it was the back up

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it's also one of the widest in the world

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so I mean rumors have it is you can land

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a tr-3b on this runway and for our

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listeners I don't think they some may

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not grasp what being able to land a

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tr-3b or being a backup for the Space

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Shuttle might entail and with this redo

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in 2004 to put it in perspective for our

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listeners Dave can you explain what the

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tr-3b is and how the majority of the

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population probably isn't even aware of

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what it is um tr-3b is a flying triangle

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and rumors have it is it's it's about a

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half a mile or so on each side so you

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could almost land an airplane on this

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airplane if that's what you want to call

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it an airplane but it's more or less a

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vehicle we can stay in the air for

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months at a time has its own kitchens

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and gyms and movie theaters because it

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is up there for so long it it creates

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its own fuels some say it has

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interdimensional types properties where

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it can go phase in and out you know it

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goes to show that you know it's been

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proven more or less that if you can

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manipulate gravity you have you have a

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like an after effect so time gravity and

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space are kind of one you mess with one

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and it has an effect on the other so you

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don't know how to have to know how to

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travel time if you can manipulate

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gravity it does that automatically have

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that effect so when you fire up this

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tr-3b and move

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through space at that kind of speed you

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not only manipulate time but space as

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well just by manipulating the gravity

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and this is done through scientific

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means this is done through probably back

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engineered alien technology with

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propulsion systems that would would be

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on those type of craft in a way type of

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craft or recovered technology and have

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you heard of any place where they may

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have gathered this technology or where

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this came from by any chance I have it

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confirmed to me that there are different

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spacecraft out there that are man-made

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and one of those craft is the venture

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star we had a contact dead way who

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passed all our tests we knew he worked

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out there he he knew the base well he

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had told me when we first met he worked

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out there and he was ill only allowed to

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see part of the craft and he was he

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worked on the landing gear for this

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craft and he says that this is crap that

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he was working on was third generation

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and the first generation venture starter

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went into space and hasn't returned yet

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so it was on a long mission ER or have

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problems or whatever but it it hasn't

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returned but if you're talking third

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generation in the state 2005 we're

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probably on the fourth generation of

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that craft here in you know 2019 yeah

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it's using different technology than

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propulsion systems than we're used to

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that totally unconventional technology

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it must have been recovered or was an

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interdimensional do is there any idea or

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theories there's probably multitude

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where this technology came from you know

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there's all sorts of rivers where it

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came from it coulda came from the rod

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Crash's I could have been given to us

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through some kind of deal like back in

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1952 with the Eisenhower documents were

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we had an exchange program or you know

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there's an exchange for hardware for

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software and you know there's lots of

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different theories of where this

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technology originated from but

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originally in my eyes I think it came

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from off-planet because I think all this

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is my personal belief I think all real

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knowledge is taught not learned if you

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know what I'm trying to say it's like it

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for real technology to be here it was

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brought here right it's connected

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differently like it's more ancient maybe

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or augmented exactly I mean you have to

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the ancient technology like the pen

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Matas back in India and stuff like that

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that could be that could be part of it

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but I do believe that in modern times

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that if we did find a de nada we

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probably wouldn't be able to back

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engineer it with a month with our modern

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mindset on physics and with what we have

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back engineered we know that it we know

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what we've back engineered works or at

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least there's theories you know even

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people who have worked for these

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organizations and I don't want to throw

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that in the mix but I know you know we

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know each other so well it's hard for me

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to not like want to throw out like

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random crazy mix of like some of the

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things I know you know however you have

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had informants who have worked on some

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of these spacecraft and they've given

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you a view into the window of what

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exactly they're doing it's very

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compartmentalized but they know in some

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way shape or form they're working on

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something

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way higher level is that correct yes you

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can put it like this stealth technology

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when it when it came tumbling it was 40

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years old and so what we have today

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would seem like magic or godlike

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technology compared to what people are

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used to you know normal airplanes

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helicopters fighter jets that type of

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stuff I mean the stuff they'll be we are

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keeping hidden now might not just be the

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military that's doing this there's

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there's plenty of companies out there

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like Raytheon or Boeing or you know

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Lockheed that could have very well have

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this technology and kept it secret even

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from their military contacts or the

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government themselves it in in fact be

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unlike the birds or has not passed like

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a breakaway civilization so these people

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might have technology that they're

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keeping secret and they said you know

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they might have a government contractor

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military contract and said okay we're

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making this part for you or this engine

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for you or this plane or this spaceship

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here you go but with the black project

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money that they got they might have

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built two or three of those or maybe

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just a basic one for the military it and

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kept the really good stuff for

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themselves I've it's really strange that

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you mentioned that I've I've spoken with

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some guys who claim to be super soldiers

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and that's really difficult to back up

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because that means they're connected to

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a type of organization black-budget that

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utilizes people whether they want to be

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used or not free of charge basically and

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it's super classified but what it

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reminds me of is there's no way to

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verify what they do and that is the case

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a lot of times it's I've spoken with

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different people and they've verified

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that it's difficult for some of these

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area

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fifty-one employees for example to

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verify income sometimes or you know

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where they work and although they're

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able to do it a lot of times they have

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such a higher level of clearance than

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you or I or anyone really could and a

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lot of these people presidents have been

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10 times dirtier than these individuals

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that work at some of these bases and

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what they have to do to get like not

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only keep that clearance but get that

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clearance like you can't have minimal

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like it's ridiculous like credit things

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minimal things bankruptcies ID anything

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will throw you out a DUI a trespassing

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charge a anything at all a traffic

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ticket over a certain amount its these

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clearances are like interesting and

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these people are working in capacities

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that they know we're very high yet

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totally believe that it's just like when

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I when I like talk about that way in

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public like a comic-con or a conference

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or something you know people stand up

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and they said oh you know that way I

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live out it that way that was a great

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place to raise kids you know there's

390
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nothing like and they're in there like

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these people that live out the dead lady

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they think oh what's going on out here

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it's a great place but small part of

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that base and that's a Ditto area now

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there there are areas out there that are

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that are off-limits to civilians that

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lives out there and there's probably

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more areas out there there special use

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and those require even more clearance

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and like for instance I have this

401
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contact it that way and he said he told

402
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me he said I have a pretty high

403
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clearance at it that way but I am not

404
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allowed to take pictures in a certain

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area or even point my camera up in that

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area and yeah I can do it because I'm

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not cleaned out part of the military

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yeah you know you start pointing your

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camera in that direction with you know

410
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high-powered zoom lenses and there's

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nothing much there so you're thinking

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why would they keep that area you know

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off-limits to photography here for even

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the military personnel that's out there

415
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when there's really nothing there

416
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it is it makes you question the whole

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you know see what I see or do what I do

418
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but don't like I type up there you know

419
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but I mean there are places out there

420
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that I mean I've even got invited to to

421
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have tours out there and as well you

422
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know that's the surface and I'm pretty

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sure that most of the really high-tech

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stuff or the top-secret stuff's doctor

425
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ground it's difficult because I've seen

426
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some of the amazing I guess it's our

427
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magic is what I want to call it because

428
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what I saw was beyond technology yeah

429
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they'll straight up say there's alien

430
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artificial you know reverse engineered

431
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intelligence type technology magic yeah

432
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I mean you have people in that right now

433
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and Steven Greer is a disclosure project

434
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witnesses that are come forward that

435
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have said you know there are underground

436
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bases testing and maintaining an

437
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extraterrestrial technology in Utah

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reach reachable only by air and we're

439
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flying anti-gravity vehicles up there

440
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and in Utah right now and that was

441
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decades ago when that wind up state

442
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statements came out

443
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so you think about what what had what

444
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could you think they don't tend to tire

445
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in a decade or two decades in a facility

446
00:24:01,220 --> 00:23:59,040
like that way

447
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with that kind of landmass that kind of

448
00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:04,110
air space I mean that there's not just

449
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testing biological and Radiological

450
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:10,740
weapons out there they're talking we're

451
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talking about weaponry they can reach

452
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space we're talking about craft that can

453
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easily go in the space or reach the moon

454
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or mars easily who probably does so on a

455
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regular basis

456
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we're talking about godlike technology

457
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that that's being tested which D miles

458
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away from Salt Lake City and with that

459
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weighs huge history of failures and mess

460
00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:40,920
ups you know you have somebody out there

461
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playing God and and mess up we're all

462
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gonna feel the after-effects of that

463
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messed up so I mean I've been in bandits

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points out by Dugway and we've witnessed

465
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you know being tests and and weird weird

466
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type of craft like cloaking technology

467
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you know all sorts of weird stuff and

468
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and it seems like kind of like 10 like

469
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skin walks you know when you go out

470
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there and when you see phenomenon out

471
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there and then you go back out there or

472
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you know a dozen times later and you see

473
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something else it's never the same you

474
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never see the same thing twice but it

475
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does become more intimate isn't it weird

476
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though like when you see something in

477
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Dugway or in what I like to call

478
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shapeshifter territory just to cover my

479
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I'm a neighbor and you're kind of a

480
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neighbor and we're all kind of neighbors

481
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in this area and it's you know just

482
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today I had to contact all the

483
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connecting properties and say hey I

484
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don't know whose cows these are but

485
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there's a lot of cows on the property

486
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and

487
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know four out of four one was like yeah

488
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they're my cows and I'll take care of it

489
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on Thursday or so would you know but

490
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Dave you realize that like the it's

491
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crazy when you start realizing some of

492
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the things that have happened in both

493
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areas that you just mentioned

494
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shapeshifter territory the quote unquote

495
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where the skinwalker phenomena or the

496
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shapeshifter phenomena or the Native

497
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American witch reweighed phenomenon

498
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takes place these ranch lands and this

499
00:26:48,850 --> 00:26:39,130
quote-unquote

500
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well area 51 part 2 area 52 has possibly

501
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way more than area 51 has ever been

502
00:27:02,590 --> 00:26:58,850
rumored to have yeah I agree I think

503
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that the proving grounds is a crown

504
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jewel in the military's eyes I mean you

505
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:07,040
have that kind of land space that kind

506
00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:09,650
of bare space and then you on top of

507
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:13,990
that you have history of failures of

508
00:27:19,330 --> 00:27:16,250
chemical weaponry and what-have-you so

509
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:19,340
it makes it kind of a scary place I mean

510
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:22,910
it's it's that Pandora's Box you know

511
00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:24,520
one of the scariest places on earth

512
00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:26,750
because they do they've tested

513
00:27:32,020 --> 00:27:28,760
everything but nuclear weapons out there

514
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:32,030
up to ten megatons so anything that you

515
00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:34,430
can think of as a weapon has been tested

516
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:37,100
out there it's where they test Minuteman

517
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:41,570
missiles tracking technology laser beam

518
00:27:47,530 --> 00:27:44,960
technologies phasers lasers you name it

519
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:47,540
as far as weaponry go it goes that's

520
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:50,000
been tested out there so you you have

521
00:27:55,930 --> 00:27:54,050
that as a public kind of you know hey

522
00:27:58,810 --> 00:27:55,940
this is public knowledge is what we do

523
00:28:00,880 --> 00:27:58,820
out here but it's not all they do out

524
00:28:03,010 --> 00:28:00,890
there because you doing up the backside

525
00:28:05,470 --> 00:28:03,020
where you know hey NASA mission cert

526
00:28:08,260 --> 00:28:05,480
landing spacecraft out there Kennison

527
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:08,270
Stardust those type of missions and then

528
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:10,330
you have two black project stuff that no

529
00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:12,850
talks about kinda like that beam test we

530
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:15,700
seem well we confronted you know the

531
00:28:20,610 --> 00:28:17,470
spokesperson for Doug way it did hey you

532
00:28:22,050 --> 00:28:20,620
know here's some pictures of you know

533
00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:22,060
what we've seen out there and they

534
00:28:26,970 --> 00:28:24,750
totally deny it until their signage is

535
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:26,980
pointed out in their pictures and then

536
00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:28,510
they say oh yeah we were doing some

537
00:28:35,850 --> 00:28:30,940
testing out there that night but that's

538
00:28:37,710 --> 00:28:35,860
all we can say but on the other point of

539
00:28:41,130 --> 00:28:37,720
that when they when they do come forward

540
00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:41,140
they say Johnny or our contractors out

541
00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:44,230
here left their privacy and so you're

542
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:46,830
talking about contractors like rocky

543
00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:52,000
Northrop you know Raytheon there's

544
00:28:56,730 --> 00:28:54,550
probably thirty contractors out there

545
00:28:59,100 --> 00:28:56,740
more or less doing whatever they want

546
00:29:00,510 --> 00:28:59,110
because that kind of land that kind of

547
00:29:03,150 --> 00:29:00,520
airspace gives them that kind of

548
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:03,160
privilege and when we go close to there

549
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:06,970
we see these kind of tests you know and

550
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:09,370
take video and pictures of these tests

551
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:12,450
they're a total denial until we can show

552
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:15,570
hey this is Dugway this isn't you know

553
00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:19,690
Australia Wyoming Green this is your

554
00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:22,120
property in this testing done under

555
00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:26,260
property and so you get the basic kind

556
00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:29,320
of you know oh yeah we know we do this

557
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:32,620
type of stuff out here but you know with

558
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:34,990
bombing runs teaching pilots Hutta

559
00:29:42,210 --> 00:29:39,850
to run bombs and you know why fire

560
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:42,220
exercise stuff like that and then on the

561
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:45,850
other side you have testing of super

562
00:29:52,790 --> 00:29:50,290
technology more or less um I've been an

563
00:29:56,130 --> 00:29:52,800
interesting fellow at Comic Con one time

564
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:56,140
when here when I was doing Comicon and

565
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,210
he came to me and he says I want very

566
00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:00,640
familiar with your website I work at

567
00:30:05,730 --> 00:30:04,390
Dugway we did have a ban on your

568
00:30:08,550 --> 00:30:05,740
t-shirts where we couldn't wear your

569
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:08,560
t-shirts or having to do they you know

570
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:11,710
stickers or anything like that and so

571
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:14,110
I've been stalling efforts for some time

572
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:15,910
and I would like to kind of tell you

573
00:30:21,870 --> 00:30:19,600
something because I had no longer work

574
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:21,880
there but he said he worked for Baker

575
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:23,330
lat

576
00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:28,970
and he worked in the mountain so I mean

577
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:30,590
if you know anything about that way you

578
00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:32,330
do you have a huge mountain out there at

579
00:30:37,989 --> 00:30:35,720
Cal Grant amount it's a big mountain and

580
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:37,999
it takes up miles and miles and miles of

581
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:45,200
space and in that mountain is now if you

582
00:30:53,649 --> 00:30:49,600
have that kind of privacy let's say on

583
00:30:58,299 --> 00:30:53,659
that type of that large metal and I mean

584
00:31:00,519 --> 00:30:58,309
you know many many times larger than air

585
00:31:05,379 --> 00:31:00,529
61 are you talking about area 51 that s

586
00:31:10,930 --> 00:31:05,389
for now and that way has Granite

587
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:10,940
Mountain and rumors are another location

588
00:31:14,169 --> 00:31:12,590
but I'm not going to get into that right

589
00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:14,179
now because that's just looking I have

590
00:31:22,029 --> 00:31:18,470
found and haven't confirmed but when you

591
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:22,039
have that kind of space a kind of

592
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:26,809
privacy you can more or less come up

593
00:31:34,299 --> 00:31:31,609
with a breakaway civilization very

594
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:34,309
easily because nobody's going to see it

595
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:36,289
it buries for you they're going to know

596
00:31:41,739 --> 00:31:38,690
about it and I mean even the people who

597
00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:41,749
work it that way security the you know

598
00:31:47,729 --> 00:31:43,879
the staff all that techniques are not

599
00:31:52,090 --> 00:31:47,739
privy to that so you're talking about a

600
00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:52,100
totally private huge land mass military

601
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:55,340
owned where you can do whatever you want

602
00:32:01,599 --> 00:31:58,970
I don't even think that Dugway actually

603
00:32:04,509 --> 00:32:01,609
knows exactly everything that goes on

604
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:04,519
there because you have contractors out

605
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:05,929
there with more or less their own built

606
00:32:12,609 --> 00:32:10,159
their own bases between stuff totally in

607
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,619
private you have no oversight on the

608
00:32:16,659 --> 00:32:14,720
entire facility no congressional

609
00:32:20,769 --> 00:32:16,669
oversight no independent oversight you

610
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:20,779
have UFO Watchers as oversight and they

611
00:32:26,889 --> 00:32:24,080
want to take away more land that was

612
00:32:31,060 --> 00:32:26,899
their plan back in what 2008 was to take

613
00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:31,070
another oh I don't know 30 miles out the

614
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,100
south side because of people like me and

615
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:36,240
you that go out there and watch

616
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:39,510
and so well that that area too is also

617
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:43,410
been contaminated from their bombing

618
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:47,850
runs you know back in the day and so

619
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:49,710
they kind of want to buy that land to

620
00:32:57,410 --> 00:32:53,340
stay keep their legal mumbo jumbo in

621
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,420
check but you have this type of facility

622
00:33:01,670 --> 00:32:59,760
in this type of land for these type of

623
00:33:04,420 --> 00:33:01,680
contractors out there do whatever they

624
00:33:07,580 --> 00:33:04,430
want they could be so far ahead in

625
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:07,590
testing tech new technologies that it

626
00:33:16,790 --> 00:33:13,200
would seem godlike to us we we basically

627
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:16,800
have people so far had technology wise

628
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:19,890
and as far as the legal aspects so far

629
00:33:25,790 --> 00:33:23,220
ahead claiming lands they mayor hey you

630
00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:25,800
know that covering themselves every

631
00:33:35,030 --> 00:33:30,740
which way from Sunday by means that are

632
00:33:37,930 --> 00:33:35,040
not only don't affect us or we claim

633
00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:37,940
don't affect us and I buy we I claim

634
00:33:44,770 --> 00:33:42,150
it's wherever the average citizen would

635
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:44,780
go for information you get nothing and

636
00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:47,310
where somebody like yourself or myself

637
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:50,100
know that this is an area where people

638
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:53,970
have died animals have died people of

639
00:33:59,060 --> 00:33:56,510
certain faiths have been put in

640
00:34:01,790 --> 00:33:59,070
situations I mean there was an incident

641
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:01,800
with sheep the list goes on and on and

642
00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:04,170
we don't have to go into them but

643
00:34:11,630 --> 00:34:07,980
testing of ways you can tell that it's

644
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:11,640
more of a man-made technology that is

645
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:16,260
taking place it may be introduced

646
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:20,250
or be able to travel a lot faster than

647
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:23,130
anything that the NASA people would have

648
00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:27,510
us believe I don't buy for a second that

649
00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:30,870
we haven't been back to the moon don't

650
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:34,950
buy it for a second and don't buy it for

651
00:34:42,020 --> 00:34:36,570
a second that we got there when we

652
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:42,030
claimed we did so it's kind of like we

653
00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:44,490
got here we're there we did it everybody

654
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:49,369
else go away and for the last what 619

655
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:52,129
69 we've probably been going on a daily

656
00:34:59,499 --> 00:34:57,200
basis doing something so I think the

657
00:35:01,329 --> 00:34:59,509
venture star is rumored to have you know

658
00:35:03,370 --> 00:35:01,339
he goes to the moon on regular basis

659
00:35:04,930 --> 00:35:03,380
they can take 33 people into space

660
00:35:08,859 --> 00:35:04,940
unlike the space shuttle they can take

661
00:35:13,029 --> 00:35:08,869
white 7/9 like that I love the 33 like

662
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:13,039
that's by accident right the symbology

663
00:35:20,769 --> 00:35:16,880
they're right in it just intergalactic

664
00:35:24,489 --> 00:35:20,779
travel 33 passengers no mention let's go

665
00:35:27,309 --> 00:35:24,499
and that's exactly the type of

666
00:35:29,499 --> 00:35:27,319
technology I've seen stuff without I

667
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:29,509
don't want to go into it but I've seen

668
00:35:35,019 --> 00:35:33,410
stuff that it's very similar some things

669
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:35,029
have been very similar between

670
00:35:42,759 --> 00:35:39,529
shapeshifter territory and Dugway

671
00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:42,769
proving grounds and I you know what I

672
00:35:45,099 --> 00:35:43,190
mean

673
00:35:48,579 --> 00:35:45,109
it's there's just so much going on but

674
00:35:49,269 --> 00:35:48,589
some of the things right like cloaking

675
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:49,279
technology

676
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:55,249
yep yeah there's there's all sorts of

677
00:36:00,670 --> 00:35:58,480
I've gotten all sorts of email and

678
00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:00,680
messages from people that work out there

679
00:36:06,009 --> 00:36:02,630
saying that that technology is big

680
00:36:09,489 --> 00:36:06,019
tested out there or was being tested out

681
00:36:11,019 --> 00:36:09,499
there and you know you have to take

682
00:36:13,989 --> 00:36:11,029
those with a grain of salt but when they

683
00:36:15,549 --> 00:36:13,999
come up with these these huge stories

684
00:36:18,130 --> 00:36:15,559
and you say you meet these people in

685
00:36:22,989 --> 00:36:18,140
person and they they are so paranoid

686
00:36:26,589 --> 00:36:22,999
about telling you what they know you

687
00:36:28,690 --> 00:36:26,599
have to take that as hey this is got to

688
00:36:32,999 --> 00:36:28,700
have some truth to it because this guy's

689
00:36:37,089 --> 00:36:35,769
it doesn't take you know yeah it doesn't

690
00:36:41,859 --> 00:36:37,099
take much to scare you

691
00:36:46,059 --> 00:36:41,869
in these areas whether it be up in the

692
00:36:49,779 --> 00:36:46,069
UN de Basin or out in the areas of

693
00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:49,789
Dugway they're similar they are similar

694
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:55,430
in that anything can happen right the

695
00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:57,440
basin is one of those places where you

696
00:37:02,860 --> 00:36:59,450
know I've had a lot of sightings in the

697
00:37:06,490 --> 00:37:02,870
basement myself and and photographs and

698
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:06,500
amazing UFOs and strange orbs crypto

699
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:07,910
creatures and that type of thing and

700
00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:09,680
I've also had a big boost sighting in

701
00:37:16,270 --> 00:37:11,360
the base and well kind of the high unit

702
00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:16,280
part of the basin but I mean there was a

703
00:37:23,830 --> 00:37:20,600
time back in around 2000 so say early

704
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:23,840
early 2000s where I was having a lot

705
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:27,050
going on and I would get called to kind

706
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:30,640
of like telepathically talk to that area

707
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:34,240
it didn't seem to matter where I went

708
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:37,730
they just wanted me kind of out of the

709
00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:40,910
way almost like in a rural area to show

710
00:37:46,990 --> 00:37:43,820
themselves or put on a display or

711
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:47,000
whatever whatever it is that was that

712
00:37:52,510 --> 00:37:50,510
was going to go on at that time and and

713
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:52,520
it was this it was kind of a dark time

714
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:54,110
for me too because I didn't really know

715
00:38:01,420 --> 00:37:57,890
what was going on other than strange

716
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:01,430
phenomena was occurring in my life and I

717
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:03,470
would go to these places and strange

718
00:38:12,430 --> 00:38:07,330
stuff would happen and so it made me

719
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:12,440
kind of think of you know why why me why

720
00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:14,720
why am I being picked for this why am i

721
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:18,500
why am I here in this location in the

722
00:38:25,150 --> 00:38:22,250
middle of the night alone yes it really

723
00:38:27,970 --> 00:38:25,160
gets you thinking and then you know over

724
00:38:32,170 --> 00:38:27,980
time you know that that phenomena have

725
00:38:36,610 --> 00:38:32,180
kind of slowed down for me but it also

726
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:36,620
gave me time to reflect on those those

727
00:38:44,650 --> 00:38:39,890
instance where that phenomenon would

728
00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:44,660
happen and it also gave me time to like

729
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:46,990
regain memories from some of those

730
00:38:54,850 --> 00:38:52,160
encounters let's say and I mean I can I

731
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:54,860
could tell stories about my childhood

732
00:38:59,920 --> 00:38:57,530
that would blow people away and I don't

733
00:39:03,190 --> 00:38:59,930
because I think I'm I'm trying to write

734
00:39:05,950 --> 00:39:03,200
a book but it you know for me writing a

735
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:05,960
book is hard I've been - I've been

736
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:09,200
trying to read about years but it's not

737
00:39:17,609 --> 00:39:11,930
all about trying to pump out a book for

738
00:39:23,799 --> 00:39:17,619
for publicity here same I want it to be

739
00:39:26,319 --> 00:39:23,809
as real as I can remember it and and

740
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:26,329
there's there's times where I look back

741
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,119
on my note and I go oh I remember more

742
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:31,760
and so I if I were to publish typical

743
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:33,650
essays five years ago and be missing

744
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:37,970
details because it's almost like a

745
00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:40,250
constant thing to me when I when I look

746
00:39:45,309 --> 00:39:43,099
back on come up my encounters or

747
00:39:49,269 --> 00:39:45,319
sightings like I remember a little bit

748
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:49,279
more about it and so it's kind of one of

749
00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:52,160
those things but people ask me you know

750
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:55,190
what what look gonna come out and I'm

751
00:40:02,200 --> 00:39:57,170
like you know I'm still working on that

752
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,210
but it's you know you kind of know what

753
00:40:05,769 --> 00:40:04,160
I mean Ryan about writing books I mean

754
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:05,779
when you write a book and you publish it

755
00:40:09,779 --> 00:40:08,930
then I'll said you say I should have

756
00:40:12,849 --> 00:40:09,789
been at the book

757
00:40:15,309 --> 00:40:12,859
is that right is that how it's been for

758
00:40:17,170 --> 00:40:15,319
you at least absolutely you either have

759
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:17,180
to wait ten years and put on a

760
00:40:23,499 --> 00:40:20,480
thousand-page book or you just have to

761
00:40:26,319 --> 00:40:23,509
throw random pain at the wall and much

762
00:40:27,999 --> 00:40:26,329
like a petroglyph or a pictograph itself

763
00:40:31,620 --> 00:40:28,009
you're just trying to like in essence

764
00:40:37,059 --> 00:40:31,630
make a record somewhat of something

765
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:37,069
somehow impossible yet commonly seen in

766
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:41,240
particular areas and the the magic

767
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:44,210
taking place at Dugway and the

768
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:47,210
similarities are unsettling with

769
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:50,750
shapeshifter territory skinwalker area

770
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:52,970
you in a basin in general we're talking

771
00:41:00,789 --> 00:40:56,710
about it it's really an 80 square mile I

772
00:41:03,789 --> 00:41:00,799
mean there's areas up by McConkey down

773
00:41:06,430 --> 00:41:03,799
towards the book cliffs out towards you

774
00:41:09,549 --> 00:41:06,440
know there's areas in the basin that

775
00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:09,559
will make your skin crawl down by

776
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:12,440
Pelican Lake it's it's an

777
00:41:19,019 --> 00:41:15,890
interdimensional much like it's almost

778
00:41:22,349 --> 00:41:19,029
like we are trying to mimic the mimic

779
00:41:25,299 --> 00:41:22,359
itself because this possible

780
00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:25,309
intelligence you know according to

781
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:27,230
scientists most likely an alien

782
00:41:32,770 --> 00:41:29,810
artificial intelligence

783
00:41:35,950 --> 00:41:32,780
according to occultists it's a possible

784
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:35,960
gin or a no that's a no all-encompassing

785
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:38,690
term or you know there's no mention of

786
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:42,110
other areas where it could be literally

787
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:46,160
a reptilian space alien type ancient one

788
00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:51,050
old one slash Archon that you know we're

789
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:53,750
all bait it's not just you or I but

790
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,450
we're all bait we all are there's no

791
00:42:00,700 --> 00:41:58,400
mention of any of this and the rabbit

792
00:42:02,530 --> 00:42:00,710
hole just continues to go down I haven't

793
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:02,540
even started into some of the other

794
00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:04,880
areas and you know this Dave there's

795
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:07,700
some connections between Dugway and

796
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:11,440
shapeshifter territory that are insane

797
00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:14,480
yeah I mean you got Kings speak out

798
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:24,490
and I think much of what we see when I

799
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:27,710
say we you and I when we're up and you

800
00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:31,760
know that's space wolf research there at

801
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:36,700
us WR we see stuff above kings peak and

802
00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:40,270
or the jams up there really quickly

803
00:42:46,990 --> 00:42:44,320
we're talking about ghosts like lights

804
00:42:51,490 --> 00:42:47,000
that the Native Americans would call it

805
00:42:55,590 --> 00:42:51,500
or spirit lights lights with

806
00:42:59,560 --> 00:42:55,600
intelligence or precognitive sentient

807
00:43:02,620 --> 00:42:59,570
type technology they know what you're

808
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:02,630
thinking many times before you actually

809
00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:07,040
think it and at this point I like that

810
00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:09,470
Dave use the word godlike at one point

811
00:43:16,210 --> 00:43:11,990
because they are omnipotent in the way

812
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:16,220
they analyze within proximity another

813
00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:22,400
creature which would be us and there's a

814
00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:26,390
highly advanced thing taking place don't

815
00:43:36,190 --> 00:43:27,830
you think Dave there's something going

816
00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:36,200
on right it seems to be ito has like two

817
00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:38,750
to three four maybe four places that are

818
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:43,980
really really you know high in activity

819
00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:46,070
we got the base and you guys

820
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,310
shape-shifter territories you got there

821
00:43:55,490 --> 00:43:52,560
was 52 and then you've got spots down

822
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:55,500
here that are that are kind of Native

823
00:44:02,540 --> 00:43:58,410
American high energy type of type of

824
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:02,550
areas like McConkey or steak oh those

825
00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:05,610
type of areas and it seems like you know

826
00:44:09,850 --> 00:44:07,470
when you go into them say the Native

827
00:44:12,530 --> 00:44:09,860
American type of places like say go or

828
00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:12,540
McConkey you can almost feel that energy

829
00:44:18,050 --> 00:44:15,720
right away but it's a different type of

830
00:44:22,730 --> 00:44:18,060
energy it's almost like at that ancient

831
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:22,740
like it's natural but you go into like

832
00:44:28,780 --> 00:44:24,690
places like like Erica do when they're

833
00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:28,790
done weigh in or air 52 that way and

834
00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:34,830
it's not natural feeling energy like it

835
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:37,260
is you know and say go or McConkey yours

836
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:39,930
say Pacific territories it's almost like

837
00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:48,050
it's artificial kind of you know like

838
00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:52,080
conformed or messed with type of energy

839
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:55,980
because it's uncomfortable in order you

840
00:45:00,730 --> 00:44:58,050
know what I'm talking about is plus of

841
00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:00,740
energies yeah yeah I know what you mean

842
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:03,750
you can't you can't first Inger on it it

843
00:45:09,940 --> 00:45:06,930
doesn't deal dude uncomfortable is that

844
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:09,950
finger on it you just nailed it it is

845
00:45:17,050 --> 00:45:13,890
uncomfortable its technology being used

846
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:17,060
in ways it wasn't designed to be used

847
00:45:22,940 --> 00:45:19,770
right right it's like when they're you

848
00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:22,950
know 1952 treaty you know when we when

849
00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:25,260
we had that exchange and they said okay

850
00:45:31,340 --> 00:45:29,340
well here's technology that's going to

851
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:31,350
help you and then they used that to make

852
00:45:40,010 --> 00:45:35,010
weapons so they're using that technology

853
00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:40,020
in a bill manner in a way that wasn't

854
00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:42,060
supposed to be made was it supposed to

855
00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:45,720
be used and so you have that mic like

856
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:47,670
say that uncomfortable feeling about

857
00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:49,770
that and you can um you can almost feel

858
00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:00,080
it's an abuse of classified information

859
00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:03,750
magic if you will and magic I just say

860
00:46:08,020 --> 00:46:05,430
that because that is what they call a

861
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:08,030
lot of times these top-secret documents

862
00:46:17,450 --> 00:46:11,970
there's high levels of this and whether

863
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:17,460
you're a member of Q Class secretive

864
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:20,400
agenda or higher it's hard for me to

865
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:25,040
believe there's higher and there is this

866
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:29,210
implements things where they go into

867
00:46:33,770 --> 00:46:31,530
areas that the majority of the

868
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:33,780
population would never believe that our

869
00:46:40,090 --> 00:46:35,730
government would ever consider the

870
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:40,100
reality of these types of quote-unquote

871
00:46:48,580 --> 00:46:45,960
magic right I mean that's what the crop

872
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:48,590
circles use to the crop circle makers

873
00:46:54,610 --> 00:46:51,690
the ones that actually go out and make

874
00:46:57,260 --> 00:46:54,620
crop circles you know not all of them

875
00:46:59,540 --> 00:46:57,270
not all of them are unexplained some of

876
00:47:02,030 --> 00:46:59,550
them are made by humans I've met some of

877
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:02,040
these crop circle makers and they they

878
00:47:07,550 --> 00:47:04,710
found out that they can be made it takes

879
00:47:10,310 --> 00:47:07,560
a extremely a lot of amount of work and

880
00:47:12,140 --> 00:47:10,320
thought putting put into them and what

881
00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:12,150
they're gonna do during the night but

882
00:47:18,260 --> 00:47:15,320
they used that word magic as well and

883
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:18,270
when I when I was talking about or say

884
00:47:24,350 --> 00:47:21,110
these these energies that feel wrong

885
00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:24,360
feel uncomfortable when crop circles

886
00:47:28,310 --> 00:47:26,670
aren't one of those energies a crop

887
00:47:29,570 --> 00:47:28,320
circle energy per their totally

888
00:47:32,330 --> 00:47:29,580
different than that they they feel

889
00:47:35,420 --> 00:47:32,340
natural they feel right they feel

890
00:47:38,110 --> 00:47:35,430
comfortable compared to say some of the

891
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:38,120
shapeshifter territory energies or

892
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:43,050
introduced tilted area 52 but yes the

893
00:47:52,070 --> 00:47:47,520
crop circle phenomenon is also that that

894
00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:52,080
word magic comes into play again it's

895
00:47:58,100 --> 00:47:54,660
weird because why would the government

896
00:48:04,550 --> 00:47:58,110
use that for magic eyes only often and

897
00:48:06,029 --> 00:48:04,560
it's almost like a badge of you have to

898
00:48:09,029 --> 00:48:06,039
look at this

899
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:09,039
is how people that have been in that in

900
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:11,170
those organizations have kind of like

901
00:48:16,650 --> 00:48:13,690
looked back on it and I only say that

902
00:48:20,970 --> 00:48:16,660
talking about people that have been you

903
00:48:24,509 --> 00:48:20,980
know the the highest levels of these

904
00:48:28,019 --> 00:48:24,519
organizations okay it's like a forbidden

905
00:48:31,049 --> 00:48:28,029
knowledge exactly it is for your eyes

906
00:48:35,249 --> 00:48:31,059
only which means what to someone you

907
00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:35,259
know do you think it's it's called or

908
00:48:40,799 --> 00:48:37,180
considered as to bidding knowledge

909
00:48:44,509 --> 00:48:40,809
because if it was common knowledge that

910
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:44,519
people would do wrong with it

911
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:49,359
exactly and use it for you know

912
00:48:54,930 --> 00:48:52,569
ill-gotten gains or to kill people or

913
00:48:58,109 --> 00:48:54,940
revenge and that type of thing so I

914
00:49:01,529 --> 00:48:58,119
think that that's maybe one reason why

915
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:01,539
forbidden knowledge is forbidden I think

916
00:49:07,019 --> 00:49:04,079
that's exactly right we're talking about

917
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:07,029
ports of some sort where you don't know

918
00:49:14,759 --> 00:49:10,480
whether the sailors coming in or pirates

919
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:14,769
or just there for knowledge and these

920
00:49:20,759 --> 00:49:17,920
are areas where when you're back

921
00:49:23,729 --> 00:49:20,769
engineering this like they are they I

922
00:49:28,529 --> 00:49:23,739
hate to use the term that's us because

923
00:49:32,099 --> 00:49:28,539
we're funding them this area that is

924
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,109
using possible and we need this we need

925
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,480
to know what areas like shapeshifter

926
00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:36,880
territory are doing in a sense that how

927
00:49:42,329 --> 00:49:40,150
could this affect us or damage us but at

928
00:49:45,870 --> 00:49:42,339
the same time this is most likely

929
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:45,880
technology that's been here since times

930
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:49,089
predating us so it's sort of none of our

931
00:49:54,660 --> 00:49:49,690
business

932
00:49:58,589 --> 00:49:54,670
but we're interested have you heard

933
00:50:00,380 --> 00:49:58,599
anything since tr-3b technology is there

934
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:00,390
anything else coming out that may be

935
00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:10,589
you know there's always these I get a

936
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:13,960
lot of people from Dugway they hit me up

937
00:50:18,809 --> 00:50:16,210
and they they tell me their stories they

938
00:50:19,230 --> 00:50:18,819
tell me you know what they're working on

939
00:50:20,910 --> 00:50:19,240
it

940
00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:20,920
they tell me some of them just tell me

941
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:23,020
bunch of [\h__\h] you know and I think

942
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:26,320
it's it's one of those things you know

943
00:50:31,740 --> 00:50:27,970
where you have to take you know the 50

944
00:50:33,620 --> 00:50:31,750
or 60 contacts that you have and say

945
00:50:36,750 --> 00:50:33,630
okay well these fives

946
00:50:42,270 --> 00:50:36,760
these fives I believe it's super

947
00:50:43,470 --> 00:50:42,280
credible I believe their stories if I

948
00:50:49,620 --> 00:50:43,480
talk about it I'll probably get

949
00:50:51,090 --> 00:50:49,630
something fired but they're on some of

950
00:50:55,350 --> 00:50:51,100
these people are working on things that

951
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:55,360
are so far advanced that I don't think

952
00:51:00,090 --> 00:50:58,240
the everyday person would believe it if

953
00:51:03,450 --> 00:51:00,100
it was sitting right in a room in front

954
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:03,460
of them I do believe that we're heading

955
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:09,730
into a time where some of this is caught

956
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:12,910
to be revealed sooner or later but in

957
00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:17,680
such a way that people that will accept

958
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:20,230
it I mean because you have you have

959
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:23,520
technology today that fully zero point

960
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:27,160
doesn't cost a dime could totally

961
00:51:32,550 --> 00:51:30,790
transform the world but as being kept

962
00:51:35,250 --> 00:51:32,560
secrets being suppressed because you

963
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:35,260
can't put a bill on it you can't charge

964
00:51:40,580 --> 00:51:38,230
people for it and if it was in every day

965
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:40,590
in an everyday household environment

966
00:51:46,109 --> 00:51:43,930
somebody would do their own

967
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:46,119
back-engineering and make a weapon out

968
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:49,810
of it and I think that probably part of

969
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:51,850
the reason why it's suppressed is

970
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:55,330
because you have very very smart people

971
00:52:03,000 --> 00:51:57,970
out there who are doing things in their

972
00:52:05,849 --> 00:52:03,010
garages and making things that would

973
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:05,859
totally change the world I mean you have

974
00:52:10,590 --> 00:52:08,050
people but deep that like back in the

975
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:10,600
60s and we're making water power cars

976
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:12,670
and stuff like that these people just

977
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:15,520
disappear I personally had a friend that

978
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:17,650
I was in high school with had a motor in

979
00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:18,510
his garage

980
00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:21,790
okay I've told the story I might have

981
00:52:24,460 --> 00:52:23,560
told you before I'm pretty sure I did

982
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:24,470
but

983
00:52:29,859 --> 00:52:27,770
it it was a motor that was always

984
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,869
running and I didn't pay much attention

985
00:52:33,819 --> 00:52:31,520
to it I thought was it generators

986
00:52:36,550 --> 00:52:33,829
doesn't need a compressor or something

987
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:36,560
like that and then one day I just kind

988
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:38,210
of asked him I said what is that motor

989
00:52:41,230 --> 00:52:39,680
that's always running over there he says

990
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:41,240
oh that's an experiment that me and my

991
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:44,329
dad are doing it it runs on juice motor

992
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:48,530
oil and it has like best for oil in it

993
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:52,130
as a lubricant a type of like I don't

994
00:52:56,290 --> 00:52:53,810
know canola oil or something like that

995
00:52:58,540 --> 00:52:56,300
so it's a Deborah leaked it wouldn't hum

996
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:58,550
the environment I said well how long's

997
00:53:02,260 --> 00:53:00,319
that been run and he says for five years

998
00:53:04,059 --> 00:53:02,270
now and I said well how much fuel do you

999
00:53:07,690 --> 00:53:04,069
have to put in there a stupid 5 gallon

1000
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:07,700
containers ones water one used motor oil

1001
00:53:21,339 --> 00:53:18,160
now this guy disappeared one day his

1002
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:21,349
wife give me a call about an old couple

1003
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:23,510
weeks after he disappeared haven't you

1004
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:26,240
seen him and heard from him nice no I

1005
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:29,839
haven't it I says why I saw you just up

1006
00:53:35,170 --> 00:53:32,750
and disappeared his his keys are here as

1007
00:53:42,099 --> 00:53:35,180
closer here everything is here but he's

1008
00:53:43,420 --> 00:53:42,109
not and the motors gone don't you think

1009
00:53:45,780 --> 00:53:43,430
about that you have people like this

1010
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:45,790
doing things in their garages that

1011
00:53:50,050 --> 00:53:48,410
because they're gonna they could

1012
00:53:52,569 --> 00:53:50,060
possibly change the world with these

1013
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:52,579
things you know as far as the amount of

1014
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,089
money we spend on utilities up and

1015
00:54:00,910 --> 00:53:57,920
disappear so if you think you know you

1016
00:54:03,849 --> 00:54:00,920
have this super technology look but we

1017
00:54:09,609 --> 00:54:03,859
could call it today you know 2019

1018
00:54:12,609 --> 00:54:09,619
suppressed technology that military

1019
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:12,619
contractors are working on and hiding

1020
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:14,210
and suppressing if that was to become

1021
00:54:17,859 --> 00:54:16,160
public knowledge and somebody back

1022
00:54:21,250 --> 00:54:17,869
engineered something like that their

1023
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:21,260
garage put it to use for a different

1024
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:25,970
purpose to revenge or make a bomb out of

1025
00:54:30,819 --> 00:54:27,290
it or you know something like that I

1026
00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:30,829
mean that's probably one reason why it's

1027
00:54:36,730 --> 00:54:33,430
kept on the down-low

1028
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:36,740
and I feel like the floodgates have kind

1029
00:54:40,750 --> 00:54:38,930
of an open Dave just with the Internet

1030
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:40,760
in general all of a sudden our

1031
00:54:48,070 --> 00:54:44,960
petroglyphs or our pictographs of old

1032
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:48,080
have become things that can generate

1033
00:54:56,740 --> 00:54:51,680
traction with a life of their own and an

1034
00:55:00,580 --> 00:54:56,750
artificial matrix and it makes me doubt

1035
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:00,590
the spectrum of the quote-unquote

1036
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:04,910
reality that we are sold by things like

1037
00:55:12,220 --> 00:55:09,410
the mainstream media and you know those

1038
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:12,230
who we unfortunately elect to govern us

1039
00:55:16,450 --> 00:55:14,570
because I don't know who we're electing

1040
00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:16,460
really and I don't know that anybody

1041
00:55:22,180 --> 00:55:19,240
does we don't know these people and

1042
00:55:27,130 --> 00:55:22,190
they're you know it's just picking like

1043
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:27,140
the most colorful character that you can

1044
00:55:33,090 --> 00:55:30,410
live with and they're probably not the

1045
00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:33,100
best characters to be voting into office

1046
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:36,340
just just being able to get to that and

1047
00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:39,200
this sounds so bad because I know that

1048
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,630
there is some divinity of sorts just if

1049
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,760
this is a matrix or even if it's just

1050
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:45,920
life in general whatever it is there's

1051
00:55:50,290 --> 00:55:48,230
got to be an all come encompassing

1052
00:55:53,890 --> 00:55:50,300
universality that you know whatever's

1053
00:56:01,180 --> 00:55:53,900
meant to be it's going to be but at the

1054
00:56:04,690 --> 00:56:01,190
same time our politics right now you

1055
00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:04,700
know an outsider an outlaw voting in to

1056
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:08,320
office something called space force

1057
00:56:16,030 --> 00:56:11,050
when's the last time this happened

1058
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:16,040
voting in a whole new branch of the

1059
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:19,250
military industrial complex that deals

1060
00:56:29,220 --> 00:56:24,250
with the realm that most civilians have

1061
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:29,230
well no idea of just what they're sold

1062
00:56:37,830 --> 00:56:32,510
what they're told and what NASA puts out

1063
00:56:43,390 --> 00:56:40,420
right I mean I think they're actually

1064
00:56:44,810 --> 00:56:43,400
with the space force I think that's part

1065
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:44,820
of the plan

1066
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:51,690
a plan to unsay it feel like the

1067
00:56:59,170 --> 00:56:54,810
Illuminati card game where you have a

1068
00:57:05,630 --> 00:56:59,180
plan you're not particularly willing to

1069
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:05,640
totally hide it because of your ritual

1070
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:10,530
magic that encompasses your beliefs in

1071
00:57:18,890 --> 00:57:12,570
this in this new world order Illuminati

1072
00:57:20,420 --> 00:57:18,900
type of groups that they actually tell

1073
00:57:23,810 --> 00:57:20,430
us what they're going to do before they

1074
00:57:25,820 --> 00:57:23,820
do it in a symbol in what kind of way so

1075
00:57:27,740 --> 00:57:25,830
I think that's the space force is kind

1076
00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:27,750
of part of a plan that they're going to

1077
00:57:32,980 --> 00:57:30,180
implement in the future and they're just

1078
00:57:38,060 --> 00:57:32,990
kind of putting it out there now but

1079
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:38,070
they've always had this plan and I

1080
00:57:42,110 --> 00:57:39,930
actually think that they already have

1081
00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:42,120
the craft ready and all that type of

1082
00:57:46,340 --> 00:57:44,310
stuff to go on but I think what's going

1083
00:57:48,070 --> 00:57:46,350
to happen with the space forces is kind

1084
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:48,080
of acclamation

1085
00:57:55,940 --> 00:57:51,090
to an alien invasion

1086
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:55,950
I think alien invasion because I mean

1087
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,930
they've tried just about everything you

1088
00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:00,000
know that's a day I'm talking about the

1089
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:03,240
controllers of Planet Rao's the

1090
00:58:07,010 --> 00:58:05,370
Rockefellers the Morgans those types of

1091
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:07,020
people those type of families them those

1092
00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:07,890
type of bloodlines

1093
00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:14,190
I think they're kind of quasi God who

1094
00:58:20,030 --> 00:58:16,260
believe that they without them the

1095
00:58:24,170 --> 00:58:20,040
planet would fail and they they're they

1096
00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:24,180
don't they Almighty so in their eyes the

1097
00:58:28,130 --> 00:58:25,710
less people on the planet the better

1098
00:58:30,050 --> 00:58:28,140
because it is even set public you know

1099
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:30,060
hey it's easier to kill a million people

1100
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:33,330
than to control a million people so they

1101
00:58:40,610 --> 00:58:37,950
have these plans to manipulate reality

1102
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:40,620
in such a way that's like a

1103
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:44,880
psychological kind of thing on on the

1104
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:47,610
planet under the human consciousness

1105
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:52,410
Leste and so you start putting out a

1106
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:54,650
certain thing and saying a certain thing

1107
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:58,160
enough and keep believing it

1108
00:59:05,980 --> 00:59:01,599
and then and that becomes a reality

1109
00:59:08,109 --> 00:59:05,990
whether it be truth or morally justice

1110
00:59:12,609 --> 00:59:08,119
is a different thing but it becomes

1111
00:59:15,099 --> 00:59:12,619
reality so when you have this huge

1112
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:15,109
master plan you have to kind of take it

1113
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:19,430
one piece at a time and put out just a

1114
00:59:24,819 --> 00:59:21,529
little bit just a little bit a little

1115
00:59:27,819 --> 00:59:24,829
little bit comes the holes and so I

1116
00:59:31,329 --> 00:59:27,829
think this this base force is part of

1117
00:59:34,690 --> 00:59:31,339
that little bit that's eventually going

1118
00:59:37,420 --> 00:59:34,700
to become this this whole event whole

1119
00:59:39,490 --> 00:59:37,430
events that they plan like this is hope

1120
00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:39,500
this is all about control this is all

1121
00:59:52,660 --> 00:59:42,589
about power this is all about their need

1122
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:52,670
for control and you know the last time I

1123
00:59:57,849 --> 00:59:55,130
heard a president talk about stuff like

1124
01:00:03,329 --> 00:59:57,859
this was Ronald Reagan talking about hey

1125
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:03,339
if we got hit by an outer force and he

1126
01:00:14,740 --> 01:00:10,910
manifested or did this space missile

1127
01:00:17,710 --> 01:00:14,750
defense program program yes correct

1128
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:17,720
Space Command and it's crazy what'd it

1129
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:21,890
say capable of is absolutely impossible

1130
01:00:29,079 --> 01:00:24,710
insane for those days and I'm talking

1131
01:00:32,190 --> 01:00:29,089
about the 80s and now what we're talking

1132
01:00:35,019 --> 01:00:32,200
about is very similar we don't even know

1133
01:00:36,940 --> 01:00:35,029
what space force is and half of us

1134
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:36,950
already sold on it sell me the Hat sell

1135
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:42,559
me the t-shirt wasn't there a Space

1136
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:45,049
Command in Colorado at one point like

1137
01:00:54,099 --> 01:00:50,089
back in 2004 or 2005 it was called Space

1138
01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:54,109
Command and they tracks kind of like

1139
01:00:58,839 --> 01:00:56,230
NORAD they tracked everything in space

1140
01:01:02,200 --> 01:00:58,849
they were responsible for tracking

1141
01:01:04,390 --> 01:01:02,210
asteroids and you know all that type of

1142
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:04,400
thing so you know in my eyes it's

1143
01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:05,930
nothing new I think they just come out

1144
01:01:09,970 --> 01:01:08,720
with it publicly now because they

1145
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:09,980
probably have a little bit more of a

1146
01:01:13,630 --> 01:01:11,330
handle on it

1147
01:01:15,310 --> 01:01:13,640
and we do have craft now that probably

1148
01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:15,320
can you know leave the planet really

1149
01:01:20,350 --> 01:01:17,390
easily without any kind of booster

1150
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:20,360
rocket and and you know it's interesting

1151
01:01:24,490 --> 01:01:22,250
in Vincent Astor because I was watching

1152
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:24,500
that the TV the other day and you know

1153
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:27,280
these women astronauts that are on the

1154
01:01:32,110 --> 01:01:29,210
International Space Station right now

1155
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:32,120
and they have you know that the live

1156
01:01:36,790 --> 01:01:34,970
feed and people are asking them

1157
01:01:40,330 --> 01:01:36,800
questions and they're you know answering

1158
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:40,340
the questions you watch that these

1159
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:43,850
female astronauts right now do you watch

1160
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:46,970
that NASA TV I swear to god it looks

1161
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:51,280
like virtual reality augmented reality

1162
01:01:58,510 --> 01:01:55,850
if you've ever put on VR virtual reality

1163
01:02:00,280 --> 01:01:58,520
goggles and played those type of games

1164
01:02:02,980 --> 01:02:00,290
or standard use that kind of type of

1165
01:02:05,380 --> 01:02:02,990
technology when you watch these NASA

1166
01:02:09,540 --> 01:02:05,390
programs you can see that staying

1167
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:09,550
technology being broadcast is live TV

1168
01:02:19,180 --> 01:02:13,370
but you catch him with mess-ups what

1169
01:02:20,590 --> 01:02:19,190
mistakes there is these dots on the

1170
01:02:22,750 --> 01:02:20,600
screen and you're like okay where do

1171
01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:22,760
these dots for these tracking dots for a

1172
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:24,200
virtual reality and then they're like

1173
01:02:35,470 --> 01:02:27,050
Brad aren't there but they're probably

1174
01:02:40,810 --> 01:02:35,480
you have virtual reality contact there's

1175
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:40,820
being the object and place and yet when

1176
01:02:48,940 --> 01:02:46,910
you're watching there's nothing there so

1177
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:48,950
it's almost like I don't know of it

1178
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:51,110
I'll suggest everybody kind of watched

1179
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:53,510
NASA TV and tell me what you think if

1180
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:55,970
you've ever you've ever used virtual

1181
01:03:00,400 --> 01:02:58,400
reality you tell me if that's not

1182
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,410
virtual reality that we're seeing on

1183
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:02,000
NASA television oh you watch it for

1184
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:04,490
twenty thirty minutes you realize it's

1185
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:07,280
just all CGI and it's created and write

1186
01:03:14,130 --> 01:03:08,450
an intense

1187
01:03:18,340 --> 01:03:16,720
it's just like okay these people are

1188
01:03:22,660 --> 01:03:18,350
hanging upside down their hairs not

1189
01:03:23,860 --> 01:03:22,670
floating like it would be in zero-g you

1190
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:23,870
know they're close

1191
01:03:30,940 --> 01:03:27,200
living like in zero-g I mean we've all

1192
01:03:34,810 --> 01:03:30,950
seen the real zero to type stuff like in

1193
01:03:37,930 --> 01:03:34,820
the bump in common you know the what

1194
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:37,940
they call that the vomit comet just you

1195
01:03:41,410 --> 01:03:40,850
know that the plane to the the 0tt to

1196
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:41,420
step up

1197
01:03:46,540 --> 01:03:43,690
you watch that that's really edgy and

1198
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:46,550
you compare that with what you're seeing

1199
01:03:54,370 --> 01:03:51,530
on NASA today and it's it's so state so

1200
01:03:56,020 --> 01:03:54,380
state it's almost like they're they're

1201
01:04:00,010 --> 01:03:56,030
trying to say oh look how stupid you are

1202
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:00,020
to believe this I mean they're no I

1203
01:04:04,450 --> 01:04:01,610
think there's probably some real stuff

1204
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:04,460
that NASA's doing but that's all super

1205
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:06,410
super secret and the stuff that they put

1206
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:08,810
out in the public it's made for the

1207
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:11,450
public eye it's made for kids to watch

1208
01:04:16,810 --> 01:04:15,110
it's anybody in in the right mind who

1209
01:04:18,910 --> 01:04:16,820
everything type this type of type of

1210
01:04:22,270 --> 01:04:18,920
technology augmented reality or virtual

1211
01:04:24,730 --> 01:04:22,280
reality can see it right away it's so

1212
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:24,740
obvious it's turned into the National

1213
01:04:32,770 --> 01:04:29,570
Geographic of space which you know like

1214
01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:32,780
the National Geographic oftentimes the

1215
01:04:36,460 --> 01:04:34,790
photographers were blamed with like how

1216
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:36,470
could they be there at that specific

1217
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:37,910
moment and it was like oh they're just

1218
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:42,530
amazing way more believable way more

1219
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:45,650
believable than what NASA's doing now

1220
01:04:56,110 --> 01:04:51,920
which is giving us these oh just very

1221
01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:56,120
complex images of a planet a horizon the

1222
01:05:01,660 --> 01:04:58,370
background the stars behind that

1223
01:05:07,300 --> 01:05:01,670
everything in the midst and it's all not

1224
01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:07,310
real in a sense get you it makes you

1225
01:05:11,380 --> 01:05:09,260
wonder what they what they're really

1226
01:05:14,110 --> 01:05:11,390
hiding is it is it because the NASA

1227
01:05:15,370 --> 01:05:14,120
doesn't really have the technology or is

1228
01:05:19,060 --> 01:05:15,380
it because they don't want to show you

1229
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:19,070
what actually out there cause where did

1230
01:05:25,450 --> 01:05:21,890
all that money go that's where my head

1231
01:05:27,810 --> 01:05:25,460
goes where did all the money go because

1232
01:05:32,530 --> 01:05:27,820
we're talking about billions and

1233
01:05:35,620 --> 01:05:32,540
billions and billions of dollars right

1234
01:05:36,940 --> 01:05:35,630
it's so but yeah it could be like what

1235
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:36,950
we were talking about earlier the

1236
01:05:41,890 --> 01:05:38,570
breakaway civilizations you know you

1237
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:41,900
have you have that the real technology

1238
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:44,089
that they're actually leaving the planet

1239
01:05:47,950 --> 01:05:46,640
and colonizing Mars or other planets and

1240
01:05:50,890 --> 01:05:47,960
stuff but they're actually just going to

1241
01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:50,900
fool us into thinking that this is our

1242
01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:54,460
best technology this dangerous rocket

1243
01:06:04,980 --> 01:05:59,119
technology I mean seriously I mean if we

1244
01:06:07,690 --> 01:06:04,990
if we went to the moon in 1969 why

1245
01:06:11,829 --> 01:06:07,700
hasn't that technology improved like

1246
01:06:14,829 --> 01:06:11,839
tenfold in the last 50 60 years no it

1247
01:06:18,329 --> 01:06:14,839
was like in 1969 we pulled up in a night

1248
01:06:20,849 --> 01:06:18,339
in like a 1969 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

1249
01:06:24,339 --> 01:06:20,859
perfectly makes it to the moon

1250
01:06:27,250 --> 01:06:24,349
everything goes perfect and then ever

1251
01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:27,260
since then we don't go back and all we

1252
01:06:34,540 --> 01:06:30,380
use are these little drones from afar

1253
01:06:37,930 --> 01:06:34,550
and now we're tackling the idea of Mars

1254
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:37,940
but we haven't conquered the idea of the

1255
01:06:44,050 --> 01:06:40,160
moon yet it's really very complicated

1256
01:06:47,290 --> 01:06:44,060
and it doesn't make sense right there's

1257
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:47,300
people go well how could attempt so many

1258
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:51,710
people keep a secret like that all the

1259
01:06:58,270 --> 01:06:55,369
way to their graves you know money is a

1260
01:07:00,609 --> 01:06:58,280
big thing I mean it's like there's 51

1261
01:07:03,550 --> 01:07:00,619
employees I mean you get paid you know

1262
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:03,560
40,000 a month you're gonna keep a

1263
01:07:09,309 --> 01:07:07,130
secret so I mean a curse can be kept I

1264
01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:09,319
mean it's been proven serezha do these

1265
01:07:13,450 --> 01:07:11,089
secrets can be kept the bad I can keep

1266
01:07:16,059 --> 01:07:13,460
secrets I mean that the rods have museum

1267
01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:16,069
keeping secrets there's there's secrets

1268
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:19,849
all around us and if we think for a

1269
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:22,910
moment that NASA is current technology

1270
01:07:30,790 --> 01:07:28,970
then we're being duped it's it's

1271
01:07:32,770 --> 01:07:30,800
technology we have to keep our pulse on

1272
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:32,780
and some of its real some of it isn't

1273
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:35,210
and the reason I say it isn't is because

1274
01:07:42,849 --> 01:07:38,210
some of it is media and like you said

1275
01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:42,859
that media its programming it's not

1276
01:07:47,710 --> 01:07:44,329
called the TV show it's called

1277
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:47,720
programming and keep an eye out for that

1278
01:07:53,710 --> 01:07:50,690
Dave I know you've got a bunch of cool

1279
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:53,720
you're coming out for the holidays with

1280
01:08:00,099 --> 01:07:58,160
dare where tell people where to keep in

1281
01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:00,109
touch with what's going on with the Utah

1282
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:02,839
UFO Hunters with yourself where to buy

1283
01:08:10,839 --> 01:08:08,329
your gear etc the website aleem dave

1284
01:08:14,609 --> 01:08:10,849
calm I haven't updated in years it's

1285
01:08:20,110 --> 01:08:14,619
mostly right now just kind of an archive

1286
01:08:22,539 --> 01:08:20,120
but we're on Facebook you tell UFO

1287
01:08:25,539 --> 01:08:22,549
Hunters we have daily date page Dave

1288
01:08:27,459 --> 01:08:25,549
Rosenfeld I have five five or six

1289
01:08:29,849 --> 01:08:27,469
different pages there on Facebook you

1290
01:08:33,519 --> 01:08:29,859
get one job hit you can hit the others

1291
01:08:36,430 --> 01:08:33,529
the dare where staff is it's still kind

1292
01:08:39,370 --> 01:08:36,440
of pretty popular with Dugway sales for

1293
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:39,380
the human test subject t-shirts always

1294
01:08:46,450 --> 01:08:41,930
go up around Christmas time to dive way

1295
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:46,460
I could do a little bit of sale

1296
01:08:52,030 --> 01:08:49,759
therefore strictly for Begley it's kind

1297
01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:52,040
of strange but you can find that at Cafe

1298
01:08:58,030 --> 01:08:54,430
Press or you can go to a game Dave comm

1299
01:09:00,400 --> 01:08:58,040
hit up the dare where store there or you

1300
01:09:04,590 --> 01:09:00,410
can probably find a link on one of our

1301
01:09:06,939 --> 01:09:04,600
Facebook pages to the dare where gear

1302
01:09:10,209 --> 01:09:06,949
awesome man thanks so much for taking

1303
01:09:12,610 --> 01:09:10,219
time out of their day to talk about what

1304
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:12,620
you know better than anyone else which

1305
01:09:17,559 --> 01:09:15,290
is that area and a lot of other areas in

1306
01:09:21,309 --> 01:09:17,569
Utah that we really didn't get in to

1307
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:21,319
detail about but yeah let's stay in

1308
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:22,850
touch I can't wait to have you back

1309
01:09:28,450 --> 01:09:26,960
and thanks again hey no problem next

1310
01:09:30,459 --> 01:09:28,460
time we'll have Ted we'll have to delve

1311
01:09:33,519 --> 01:09:30,469
into the space wolf research step and

1312
01:09:36,430 --> 01:09:33,529
what you're doing out there and by the

1313
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:36,440
way kudos on well you know to you you're

1314
01:09:41,289 --> 01:09:39,290
involved as well so you as well and yeah

1315
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:41,299
what I thought was hoping to get into

1316
01:09:47,620 --> 01:09:45,290
that but it is what it is and yeah man

1317
01:09:48,780 --> 01:09:47,630
have a great holiday season and we'll

1318
01:09:51,130 --> 01:09:48,790
talk to you soon

1319
01:09:54,340 --> 01:09:51,140
all right now we'll see in a bit all

1320
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:54,350
right Taylor well there you have it

1321
01:09:58,020 --> 01:09:56,000
ladies and gentlemen the man with the

1322
01:10:02,390 --> 01:09:58,030
plan the one that knows more than any

1323
01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:02,400
about Dugway breaking it down area 52

1324
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:09,910
the new location for classified testing

1325
01:10:17,540 --> 01:10:15,010
of who knows what kind of technology the

1326
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:17,550
latest and greatest that's for sure

1327
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:21,250
augmented third-time and what we know

1328
01:10:24,570 --> 01:10:23,110
about is so little compared to what is

1329
01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:24,580
really out there that's really what's so

1330
01:10:30,540 --> 01:10:27,870
fascinating about this this entire

1331
01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:30,550
Dugway proving ground and the things

1332
01:10:34,890 --> 01:10:32,020
that have happened in the past which we

1333
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:34,900
really didn't get into that it's uh it's

1334
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:37,900
all very fascinating but it would it

1335
01:10:42,930 --> 01:10:40,690
would take forever and there was a lot

1336
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:42,940
of accidents and a lot of animals killed

1337
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:46,210
and people sick and etc etc people

1338
01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:49,690
killed and there was stuff of this

1339
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nature that has been going on for quite

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some time it is a massive expanse and

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it's handled like a very well managed

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business so very interesting and it may

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very well be as claimed the new area 52

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Dugway proving grounds thanks so much -

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Dave Rosenfeld check out his Utah UFO

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Hunters on social media that's Facebook

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and he's got a few profiles I believe

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Instagram - he's also got some

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award-winning artwork that he from time

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to time sells I've been a purchaser of

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that artwork because it's so awesome

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what he's able to catch her

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he captures it on a variety of different

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formats but yeah he what he can do with

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film and I'm talking actual film as well

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as other other digitized type formats is

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pretty amazing

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Dave Rosenfeld thanks so much

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and hope to have some very cool new

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guests coming up check out what we got

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so much guys until next time keep your

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eyes to the skies feet on the ground